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SarkOzy 03-29-2010 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jschrock (Post 70144)
Why you hate me?



:orly: I noticed a hell of a lot better throttle response...
All in your head. :tongue:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadster08 (Post 70147)
After my friend put his long tubes on it made his borla's sound a SHIT load better. Plus the headers are just sexy as fuck.
You amaze me

Chadster08 03-29-2010 03:41 PM
Why is chris such a negative nacy?



How do I amaze you? Am I wrong that it made his exhaust sound better?

jschrock 03-29-2010 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadster08 (Post 70147)
After my friend put his long tubes on it made his borla's sound a SHIT load better. Plus the headers are just sexy as fuck.
Yeah I means its quieter than the flowmaster at 70-80 on the freeway thats for sure...even without cats...just want to see what it will sound like with the bullet..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70149)
All in your head. :tongue:
:roflmaonono:

Chadster08 03-29-2010 03:43 PM
I guess opening up exhaust flow doesn't allow for more horsepower or sound. We are just dumbasses James.

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ALL HAIL CHRIS, he knows EVERYTHING

SarkOzy 03-29-2010 03:45 PM
:roflmao: chadler have you seen bench tests on how much less restrictive long tube headers are versus the STOCK headers all genIII engines come with? we aren't talking the old cast iron exhaust manifolds of previous engines that were restrictive as hell. but then again im just basing my argument off facts, not sensory perceptions. :kiss:

jschrock 03-29-2010 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadster08 (Post 70153)
I guess opening up exhaust flow doesn't allow for more horsepower or sound. We are just dumbasses James.

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ALL HAIL CHRIS, he knows EVERYTHING
Well you are a dumbass no doubt....:roflshrug:

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Stock headers? or manifolds? :lol:

Chadster08 03-29-2010 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70155)
:roflmao: chadler have you seen bench tests on how much less restrictive long tube headers are versus the STOCK headers all genIII engines come with? we aren't talking the old cast iron exhaust manifolds of previous engines that were restrictive as hell. but then again im just basing my argument off facts, not sensory perceptions. :kiss:
Links, pics? Right now its my word vs yours since you have not posted link or "facts" to anything that you are saying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jschrock (Post 70156)
Well you are a dumbass no doubt....:roflshrug:
:orly:

jschrock 03-29-2010 03:49 PM
I will agree shorty headers vs manifolds are the same... but long tubes you have more velocity thus increasing throttle response and HP..

Cez★ 03-29-2010 03:51 PM
ohai

Chadster08 03-29-2010 03:59 PM
lifted LQ9's new d max:drool:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...9/IMG_1590.jpg

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I still can't find headers on fucking ebay.

jschrock 03-29-2010 04:05 PM
Fuck. Now I don't know what I want to do.....

http://hilux-surf.com/Boss_330_Chrome.jpg

or

https://www.dragtimes.com/images-cla...0262064902.jpg

SarkOzy 03-29-2010 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jschrock (Post 70159)
I will agree shorty headers vs manifolds are the same... but long tubes you have more velocity thus increasing throttle response and HP..
On a stock engine long headers are worthless. On a high revving engine that moves enough air though, they're worth their weight in gold. Short length tubes are widely known to increase torque in the lower rpm-ranges which is exactly where LS engines need it most. Unless you're building something to turn ridiculous rpm or using forced induction, the stock parts are the most cost-effective to use bar none.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadster08 (Post 70158)
Links, pics? Right now its my word vs yours since you have not posted link or "facts" to anything that you are saying.


:orly:
I think most people would take my word against yours. :read:


BUT give me some time and I'll find the articles for you precious. :kiss:

Cez★ 03-29-2010 04:10 PM
im going to buy an engine stand this weekend. anyone have a link to a good one?

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yames get the TBSS 22s. im going to as long as i get a clear answer on if they tuck

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on teh phone with IT ftl

SarkOzy 03-29-2010 04:10 PM
are those reproduction SS wheels? if not you know they wont fit right......

jschrock 03-29-2010 04:11 PM
Well I plan on a cam anyways so to me its worth it. IDGAF what anyone else thinks :)

Chadster08 03-29-2010 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70164)
On a stock engine long headers are worthless. On a high revving engine that moves enough air though, they're worth their weight in gold. Short length tubes are widely known to increase torque in the lower rpm-ranges which is exactly where LS engines need it most. Unless you're building something to turn ridiculous rpm or using forced induction, the stock parts are the most cost-effective to use bar none.



I think most people would take my word against yours. :read:


BUT give me some time and I'll find the articles for you precious. :kiss:
here ya go chris I got you a cookie.

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strol...hip_cookie.jpg

its the biggest one I could find. I hope you feel better now.

I'm not sure what the fuck you are considiering stock. Obvisiouly I don't have a truck thats putting 500rwhp but you have to take baby steps to get any where. Long tubes can only help in the long run, so for when I do decide to put a cam in the truck, the headers will help but for now I'm just going to waste my money (as you call it) and put long tubes on a "stock" truck. Not sure why you're talking shit.

jschrock 03-29-2010 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70168)
are those reproduction SS wheels? if not you know they wont fit right......
Those are trailblazer replicas, yes without the adapters I know they will not fit. That is the drawback for me ordering these they won't be available until June...

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=189128

SarkOzy 03-29-2010 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadster08 (Post 70170)
here ya go chris I got you a cookie.

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strol...hip_cookie.jpg

its the biggest one I could find. I hope you feel better now.

I'm not sure what the fuck you are considiering stock. Obvisiouly I don't have a truck thats putting 500rwhp but you have to take baby steps to get any where. Long tubes can only help in the long run, so for when I do decide to put a cam in the truck, the headers will help but for now I'm just going to waste my money (as you call it) and put long tubes on a "stock" truck. Not sure why you're talking shit.
Because I can and I know how to ruffle your feathers. :kiss:



Take your $600 to spend on headers and buy a cam, springs and rocker arms, get a retune and higher stall torque converter if you want to go fast. Then buy headers and gain your 10rwhp. :happy:

jschrock 03-29-2010 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cez (Post 70165)
yames get the TBSS 22s. im going to as long as i get a clear answer on if they tuck
l
They will tuck with the 30mm offset

EDIT: oh wait you have an OBS hmm not sure


ANOTHER EDIT: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=32916 Engine Stand for you

SarkOzy 03-29-2010 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jschrock (Post 70171)
Those are trailblazer replicas, yes without the adapters I know they will not fit. That is the drawback for me ordering these they won't be available until June...

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=189128
adapters = :uhoh:

theholycow 03-29-2010 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70172)
Take your $600 to spend on headers and buy a cam, springs and rocker arms, get a retune and higher stall torque converter if you want to go fast. Then buy headers and gain your 10rwhp. :happy:
:read:

jschrock 03-29-2010 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70174)
adapters = :uhoh:
Yeah exactly what I think about them. They will not work with my soon to be 4/6 anyways...

Chadster08 03-29-2010 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70172)
Because I can and I know how to ruffle your feathers. :kiss:



Take your $600 to spend on headers and buy a cam, springs and rocker arms, get a retune and higher stall torque converter if you want to go fast. Then buy headers and gain your 10rwhp. :happy:
You're not going to see the best of number with stock manifolds. :slap: That cam is going to need room to breath and with stock manifolds it will be chocked down.



Go tell all the people that have put long tubes on their truck that they wasted their money.

SarkOzy 03-29-2010 04:15 PM
:lol: i remember when robbie had spacers on his wheels and crew cab. he had to bring a torque wrench to the meat with him to make sure they were tight. :uhohkittah:

jschrock 03-29-2010 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarkOzy (Post 70178)
:lol: i remember when robbie had spacers on his wheels and crew cab. he had to bring a torque wrench to the meat with him to make sure they were tight. :uhohkittah:
:roflmaonono:

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Cez did you get the link i posted for the engine stand?


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