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JayBo · 11-18-2009, 04:59 PM

Already done that. Even changed the jumper to clear the CMOS settings.

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 05:08 PM

Last resort: Disconnect everything, leaving just keyboard, video card, and monitor; see if it's responsive. Then try plugging in a different power supply and replacing that video card.

Edit: By "everything" I mean including all drives and such.

JayBo · 11-18-2009, 05:31 PM

Ok I'm a dumbass.

We have the monitor hooked up to a KVM switch....if you hook the keyboard/mouse directly into the machine it boots fine.

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 05:43 PM

Better to be a dumbass having made that mistake than to have to replace the system.

**stonehenge** · 11-18-2009, 05:55 PM

at least you figured it out. That's not a dumbass move anyway, who'd think that the kvm would be killing it!?

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 06:00 PM

I have a terminal server that needs to be rebooted, but I never catch it when there's no users connected...I have to try late-night or something...

**stonehenge** · 11-18-2009, 06:03 PM

fuck them, hold that power button down

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 06:51 PM

We have an intern. He's a good kid, smart, great at figuring stuff out...but he totally has no command line experience. I'm teaching him Linux and it's driving me nuts watching him try to cd to a file or cd /directoryname to a directory that's not in /.

JayBo · 11-18-2009, 06:51 PM

UNIX ftw

don't kill me

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 06:55 PM

I'm vendor-agnostic. Most of my *nix experience is with a large variety of Linux distributions but I've spent some time in AIX too.

**stonehenge** · 11-18-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theholycow

We have an intern. He's a good kid, smart, great at figuring stuff out...but he totally has no command line experience. I'm teaching him Linux and it's driving me nuts watching him try to cd to a file or cd /directoryname to a directory that's not in /.

i had very little when I first started working here in one of the side departments. I installed a few different linux distros and played around with them and now I have enough to get by and do most of the basics as well as the stuff I need to do daily.

Try teaching him how to use vi, he'll want to use the mouse.

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 06:55 PM

Yeah, I showed him vi. I also showed him how to install joe so he doesn't have to use vi.

**stonehenge** · 11-18-2009, 07:00 PM

never used joe. I tried pico before and it works pretty well and is a little more GUI-like with mouse functions and whatnot, but when I got here the server guy here is a VI-whore and its the only thing installed on EVERY machine so I learned it really quick lol

**theholycow** · 11-18-2009, 07:06 PM

vi FTL.

Joe is like Wordstar from back in the days of CP/M and DOS 3.3. I used Wordstar on a laptop that ran CP/M, used C batteries, didn't have a hard drive or boot from a floppy, instead it booted and ran software from ROM cartridges almost like a video game. I think it had some NVRAM for storing files or something, I don't remember.

One day in biology class the room was getting smoky and I realized that it was emanating from my backpack. That was the end of that laptop.

**stonehenge** · 11-18-2009, 07:11 PM

poor lappytawpz

---------- Post added at 11:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 AM ----------

I've got used to vi, I kinda like it now lol but the learning curve kinda sucks and I still don't know all the shortcuts.

**theholycow** · 11-19-2009, 02:56 PM

**stonehenge** · 11-19-2009, 02:57 PM

FAIL due to WIN

JayBo · 11-19-2009, 03:18 PM

I'm ghosting the HD in that machine from yesterday. All tests passed, but I figured WTF. I had some extra new hd's around and 160gb > 80gb anyway.

**theholycow** · 11-19-2009, 07:51 PM

That doesn't look particularly bad, does it?

Now imagine that the "Restart" button is greyed out because you're a non-administrator user logged in to a terminal server.

Fucking shit. That terminal server has constant users - I haven't had a chance to reboot it in two weeks. That means that for two weeks, users have been getting that annoying fucker and NOBODY has reported it.

I only found out because I logged in as a regular user to test a survey I was putting on it to find out if users are happy with it or not.

**stonehenge** · 11-19-2009, 07:59 PM

Survey no longer necessary imo

Ed4x4 · 11-20-2009, 04:43 AM

Maybe one of you guys can help me out.

I've got windows vista (the worst idea windows has had) and my computer took a shit last week. I've been running it in safe mode to get by, doing my work. I tried reinstalling vista today, and it went good for a while. reinstalled it, started adding all my drivers back. Had to restart for them to take affect. Well after the restart and boot up, I get the same problem I had before. It boots up all the way to the profile login. I login, and it sits at the "Welcome" screen for however long I let it set before I get pissed and turn it off.

Anyone know the fix? Im reinstalling vista again, one more time. And then I'll have to add all the drivers again. Hopefully this fixes it, but I have a feeling it wont.

Corey · 11-20-2009, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theholycow

That doesn't look particularly bad, does it?

Now imagine that the "Restart" button is greyed out because you're a non-administrator user logged in to a terminal server.

Fucking shit. That terminal server has constant users - I haven't had a chance to reboot it in two weeks. That means that for two weeks, users have been getting that annoying fucker and NOBODY has reported it.

I only found out because I logged in as a regular user to test a survey I was putting on it to find out if users are happy with it or not.

Code:

shutdown /r /t 5 /f /d p:0:0

put that in a .bat file and set a scheduled task to run it at 3 AM

**theholycow** · 11-20-2009, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed4x4

Anyone know the fix? Im reinstalling vista again, one more time. And then I'll have to add all the drivers again. Hopefully this fixes it, but I have a feeling it wont.

Boot in safe mode. Find "Command Prompt" in the start menu. Right-click it and run as administrator. Enter
sfc /scannow
at the command line. That ought to fix it.

If that doesn't work, boot in safe mode again and run msconfig from the command line (or from "Run" if your start menu has that option). Select "Diagnostic Startup" and see if it boots in normal mode after that. If so, run it again and choose "Selective Startup" and go through it enabling some stuff. Use process of elimination to figure out which startup item is failing.

A new feature that arrived with Vista is Startup Repair.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...sked-questions
I wouldn't count on it working but it's worth a try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

Code:

shutdown /r /t 5 /f /d p:0:0

put that in a .bat file and set a scheduled task to run it at 3 AM

I was thinking of doing that, but I'm afraid there might be a user logged on even then.

---------- Post added at 07:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:54 AM ----------

Ok, at 6:55am just check it from home and nobody was on so I rebooted.

I don't like to reboot automatically/unattended in case something goes wrong.

**theholycow** · 11-25-2009, 03:59 PM

We have a 40GB drive for student home folders on our network. One student has used 35GB for dumping his camera's pictures and videos. I guess we should have put in quotas.

Cez★ · 11-25-2009, 04:03 PM

delete them

11-18-2009, 04:59 PM	#126
JayBo ♪♫Boogie Woogie King♫♪ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jurrjah Posts: 12,568	Already done that. Even changed the jumper to clear the CMOS settings. __________________

11-18-2009, 05:08 PM	#127
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	Last resort: Disconnect everything, leaving just keyboard, video card, and monitor; see if it's responsive. Then try plugging in a different power supply and replacing that video card. Edit: By "everything" I mean including all drives and such. __________________

11-18-2009, 05:31 PM	#128
JayBo ♪♫Boogie Woogie King♫♪ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jurrjah Posts: 12,568	Ok I'm a dumbass. We have the monitor hooked up to a KVM switch....if you hook the keyboard/mouse directly into the machine it boots fine. __________________

11-18-2009, 05:43 PM	#129
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	Better to be a dumbass having made that mistake than to have to replace the system. __________________

11-18-2009, 05:55 PM	#130
stonehenge Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoenn Posts: 85,082	at least you figured it out. That's not a dumbass move anyway, who'd think that the kvm would be killing it!? __________________ \| Smilies To-Do \| MAL (bishplz) \| Current PS+ Free Games\|

11-18-2009, 06:00 PM	#131
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	I have a terminal server that needs to be rebooted, but I never catch it when there's no users connected...I have to try late-night or something... __________________

11-18-2009, 06:03 PM	#132
stonehenge Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoenn Posts: 85,082	fuck them, hold that power button down __________________ \| Smilies To-Do \| MAL (bishplz) \| Current PS+ Free Games\|

11-18-2009, 06:51 PM	#133
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	We have an intern. He's a good kid, smart, great at figuring stuff out...but he totally has no command line experience. I'm teaching him Linux and it's driving me nuts watching him try to cd to a file or cd /directoryname to a directory that's not in /. __________________

11-18-2009, 06:51 PM	#134
JayBo ♪♫Boogie Woogie King♫♪ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jurrjah Posts: 12,568	UNIX ftw don't kill me __________________

11-18-2009, 06:55 PM	#135
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	I'm vendor-agnostic. Most of my *nix experience is with a large variety of Linux distributions but I've spent some time in AIX too. __________________

11-18-2009, 06:55 PM	#137
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	Yeah, I showed him vi. I also showed him how to install joe so he doesn't have to use vi. __________________

11-18-2009, 07:00 PM	#138
stonehenge Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoenn Posts: 85,082	never used joe. I tried pico before and it works pretty well and is a little more GUI-like with mouse functions and whatnot, but when I got here the server guy here is a VI-whore and its the only thing installed on EVERY machine so I learned it really quick lol __________________ \| Smilies To-Do \| MAL (bishplz) \| Current PS+ Free Games\|

11-18-2009, 07:06 PM	#139
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	vi FTL. Joe is like Wordstar from back in the days of CP/M and DOS 3.3. I used Wordstar on a laptop that ran CP/M, used C batteries, didn't have a hard drive or boot from a floppy, instead it booted and ran software from ROM cartridges almost like a video game. I think it had some NVRAM for storing files or something, I don't remember. One day in biology class the room was getting smoky and I realized that it was emanating from my backpack. That was the end of that laptop. __________________

11-18-2009, 07:11 PM	#140
stonehenge Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoenn Posts: 85,082	poor lappytawpz ---------- Post added at 11:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 AM ---------- I've got used to vi, I kinda like it now lol but the learning curve kinda sucks and I still don't know all the shortcuts. __________________ \| Smilies To-Do \| MAL (bishplz) \| Current PS+ Free Games\|

11-19-2009, 02:56 PM	#141
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	__________________

11-19-2009, 02:57 PM	#142
stonehenge Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoenn Posts: 85,082	FAIL due to WIN __________________ \| Smilies To-Do \| MAL (bishplz) \| Current PS+ Free Games\|

11-19-2009, 03:18 PM	#143
JayBo ♪♫Boogie Woogie King♫♪ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jurrjah Posts: 12,568	I'm ghosting the HD in that machine from yesterday. All tests passed, but I figured WTF. I had some extra new hd's around and 160gb > 80gb anyway. __________________

11-19-2009, 07:51 PM	#144
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	That doesn't look particularly bad, does it? Now imagine that the "Restart" button is greyed out because you're a non-administrator user logged in to a terminal server. Fucking shit. That terminal server has constant users - I haven't had a chance to reboot it in two weeks. That means that for two weeks, users have been getting that annoying fucker and NOBODY has reported it. I only found out because I logged in as a regular user to test a survey I was putting on it to find out if users are happy with it or not. __________________

11-19-2009, 07:59 PM	#145
stonehenge Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoenn Posts: 85,082	Survey no longer necessary imo __________________ \| Smilies To-Do \| MAL (bishplz) \| Current PS+ Free Games\|

11-20-2009, 04:43 AM	#146
Ed4x4 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 34	Maybe one of you guys can help me out. I've got windows vista (the worst idea windows has had) and my computer took a shit last week. I've been running it in safe mode to get by, doing my work. I tried reinstalling vista today, and it went good for a while. reinstalled it, started adding all my drivers back. Had to restart for them to take affect. Well after the restart and boot up, I get the same problem I had before. It boots up all the way to the profile login. I login, and it sits at the "Welcome" screen for however long I let it set before I get pissed and turn it off. Anyone know the fix? Im reinstalling vista again, one more time. And then I'll have to add all the drivers again. Hopefully this fixes it, but I have a feeling it wont. __________________ lolz. whatever will I do?

11-25-2009, 03:59 PM	#149
theholycow Bovinus Administratus Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greener pastures Posts: 32,377	We have a 40GB drive for student home folders on our network. One student has used 35GB for dumping his camera's pictures and videos. I guess we should have put in quotas. __________________

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